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heres the question, when the owner wasnt happy did he know that an unsafe tune to get the most power out of it could blow? even if the car is on its stock block he should of known! not trying to cause trouble, just want to make sure its the dyno shop pushing for the most power

well a bunch of us were there for the blackout dyno day and nobody has/or had a problem...i mean im not saying they couldnt have made a mistake...person to talk to bout this would be Steve(skeetersvt01) he knows the owner fairly well

There's always someone who has to say some shit about any shop there,s haters everywhere the story always gets changed there's two sides to every story.

Did the engine grenade on the dyno or on the street after he left ? So many reason's why this could happen .
If they were tuning it to lean just to get a number .... then yes the tuner would be at fault . If the A/F was safe and there was no detonation from excessive timing advance ... then it could have been the owner from not having adequate engine components for the level of horsepower he was going for . If Outlaw didn't build the engine ... you can't blame them . It sounds to me ...by what you stated in the opening thread that the owner of the car had a safe tune originaly .... got greedy ... wanted a number ... and now some how it's the tuner's fault . I've seen this happen to many times .... Shit !! .. I did the same thing to my car and melted a very expensive mod motor because I wanted a number and didn't listen to the warnings my tuner was telling me !!
So was it Dez's fault .... NO !! .. It was mine !

1st off.... saying we are on their nuts.... go fuck yourself!

We are good friend of theirs. I recommend Outlaw because he does good work for a new shop. I also recommend Dez and Dyno Performance too.

2nd, He will never tune a car past its safety. He does what every good tuner does and asked: what numbers are you looking for? If its a high number, he will be the first to say thats not safe and you can see it with the air/fuel reading. If something happened with the tune, they will have no problem retuning for free or until its where it should be safely. I see motors blow all the time. Hell, the motors ESP builds blow all the time. So does motors from MMR or DSS.

He would never tune for high numbers unless its safe.

-- Edited by SKEETER_SVT01 at 16:23, 2008-06-29

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Mineral 02 wrote:

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Nick Papageorgio wrote:

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A tuner that will keep going with a car knowing it is unsafe just because the owner wants to is not someone I want near my car. Shame on your tuner for blowing up your motor and thanks for proving why I always stayed away from Dez.

Anyways, I guess the guy left outlaw after their first tune, got on it and something broke. I think he wanted a # that the first tuner would do since he wanted to keep the car together and then he went Outlaw who didn't care if it blew up and gave him what he wanted. Outlaw did not build the motor. I don't know who did. Not sure what happened the second time.

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C'mone Nick !! Are you for real ?? I guess you can't read very well !! I'm the one that broke my car .. Not Dez !! I left Dez's with a good safe tune . However after I left and went to the track . I grabbed the PMS screen and added alittle more timing and took out a little fuel to try and push my car in the 10's !! So Dez didn't break it ... I did !! That was my point about getting to greedy ! LOL !
Besides if you go to a shop and tell them to set it on KILL and you have been warned not to do it ... How do you blame the shop for doing what the customer wanted ? Thats like saying ... " My buddy had a 800 horse cobra built by who ever racing and he couldn't handle it .... lost control and hit a tree ! .. So there for I'm not ever going to that shop .. there trying to kill people !! " See how stupid that sounds !! The problem here is this is how false roomer and bad reputation's start ... when you don't have all the facts ... you should NOT be posting about somebody elses misfortune .

-- Edited by Mineral 02 at 18:50, 2008-06-29

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well stated!!

Well these are facts.

1) Outlaw dyno blew up a car twice and I found out that is now getting repaired again at some shop.

2) The owner went to Outlaw and had the tune redone causing the car to blow up. He had the motor fixed and it blew up again on Outlaw's dyno. Whose fault it is remains to be seen, but I am sure everyone involved will point the finger at everyone else.

Mineral, you never stated in your original post that you were the one who blew up your car. Here is what you said " I've seen this happen to many times .... Shit !! .. I did the same thing to my car and melted a very expensive mod motor because I wanted a number and didn't listen to the warnings my tuner was telling me !!
So was it Dez's fault .... NO !! .. It was mine ! "

I read that as Dez kept going with it at your request even thought he told you it was unsafe, not that you did it yourself. I know you said you did it, but I didn't read as you personally doing it Thats my error.

The only thing I don't know is who did the first tune, who did the motor work, who is fixing it now and why Outlaw kept going with the tune on a car that I imagine is far from setup right if it blew up. The story is true, just not sure what the complete story is yet. For any of you doubters go ask Outlaw about it. I am sure they know since they were the ones tuning it. I'd like to know if the story is accurate myself.

^^^ well said.... It gets old.

I just talked to Outlaw.

Facts:

THIS NEVER HAPPEND!!!!!!!!! COMPLETE BULLSHIT STORY! He is pissed that this story was made.

Their is a story that doesn't involve anything with the shop and is no ones business.

Sounds like the original poster has some type of an agenda here, nothing good to say about them at all........

DRAMA is all i say