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Big Frank · Status: Offline

decided on the B303 cam..ya ya ik....

93LX · Status: Offline

get the e303, i have it in my car, love it. .495 lift and a 282 duration, nice and bumpy, great all around performance, and still great driveability. i rev it to 5500 tops, and it could go higher, i just dont wanna float my valves.

Big Frank · Status: Offline

ya but i plan on keepin the stock heads all next year..i thinkt he e303 might be a little much...plus the b303 has a lopier idle due to more duration...thats where the sound comes from the duration not the lift....i dont want to sacrifice alot of bottom end....but if i use 1.6 or 1.7 roller rockers it will be like close to .495 lift anyway...i belive the e303 is actuly .498 lift on both sides...either way, i want sumthin w. good bottom torque and a nice roudy idle

89Rustang · Status: Offline

http://forums.stangnet.com/archive/index.php/t-466965.html

Big Frank · Status: Offline

hmm interesting...i was under the impression an e-cam wuld be to much lift beacause i have stock heads....that i will be changing in a year or so....how do u think itll work with the air-gap intake and the 600cfm double pumper mike??? i read sumwhere that cams with .500 (e303+1.6rockers=.510ish lift or more with stock flowing heads are a waste of time and acutly make ur car slower....i have personal experiance w. that and dont want it to happen again...any ppl who have a stock headed car w. a e303 cam or equal give me sum feedback.

89Rustang · Status: Offline

An E cam is a good blower cam. If I were to do it again, I would go with and A1, a TFS1, or the stock cam (contrary to popular belief, the stocker is a good cam). You actually will lose low-end with the E cam unless you advance it 4*. Most cams have this ground into them. The E does not. The Ford 'letter' cams are all old technology anyways. For low-end, I would try to get a TFS1 if you don't wanna run stock, but I am sure everyone has their own opinion. Best bet is to do some searchin on corral.net and stangnet.com and see what other people are runnin.

89Rustang · Status: Offline

BAM link

There's a start.

93_REEF_NOTCH · Status: Offline

Based on your combo, just put a B cam in it and be done with it.

Sound clip of my car w/ B cam.

-- Edited by 93_REEF_NOTCH at 20:06, 2007-09-18

89Rustang · Status: Offline

With a B you would lose even more low-end than with an E over stock. Also, the lumpier the idle, the higher the rpm range. The B doesn't make most of its power until almost 4k RPM! If that is what you are lookin for, by all means. Your stock heads aren't gonna like it though. Personally, I would never pick a cam from the sound. I have an E and it idles pretty good with a slight lope.

.Vid

I got it for the low-end street power. Pre-Vortech, that is what my combo was built for and it ran pretty damn strong, ask Jim holeshot

Seriously though, don't havta take my word for it, do a little research on some of those sites

-- Edited by 89Rustang at 20:50, 2007-09-18

89Rustang · Status: Offline

93_REEF_NOTCH wrote:

Based on your combo, just put a B cam in it and be done with it.

Sound clip of my car w/ B cam.

-- Edited by 93_REEF_NOTCH at 20:06, 2007-09-18

Damn, sounds like a big-block, Rob

Big Frank · Status: Offline

b303 cam sounds nice...but i dont like the fact i gotta rev it to 4000 grand to make power...both my last cars where like that and i culdnt even drive it around town....maybe a lower gear would fix it....idk...i got 3.73s so it shuld pull nice regardless...tfs stage 1 recomends the TW heads with it..idk choosin a cam is as hard as choosin paint!!!! fuck!!!! and i still am not set on a color either

93_REEF_NOTCH · Status: Offline

I did not post video Mike to sway his vote by sound, I believe we are both smart enough for that. A STOCK 302 has enough torque to blow off tires 1st,2nd & into 3rd. So giving up a little low end in my opinion will help him in a street car. He's got a fairly light car plus the 3.73 will make up for any torque loss down low. BTW, what cam other than a stocker makes it's peak power before 4k????? Before I added blower to my car, I had no shortage of torque anywhere in rpm range, keep in mind this is with E7's. Frank, it's kinda a moot point to get anything over .500 lift because the heads are the bottleneck,not the lack of camshaft.

-- Edited by 93_REEF_NOTCH at 07:20, 2007-09-19

89Rustang · Status: Offline

93_REEF_NOTCH wrote:

I did not post video Mike to sway his vote by sound, I believe we are both smart enough for that. A STOCK 302 has enough torque to blow off tires 1st,2nd & into 3rd. So giving up a little low end in my opinion will help him in a street car. He's got a fairly light car plus the 3.73 will make up for any torque loss down low. BTW, what cam other than a stocker makes it's peak power before 4k????? Before I added blower to my car, I had no shortage of torque anywhere in rpm range, keep in mind this is with E7's. Frank, it's kinda a moot point to get anything over .500 lift because the heads are the bottleneck,not the lack of camshaft.

-- Edited by 93_REEF_NOTCH at 07:20, 2007-09-19

I know dude, I was refering to his 2nd post where he was talking about lopey idles.

All depends on what he is looking for I guess.

B303 $163.95
Advertised duration: 284 intake/284 exhaust
Duration at .050 in. cam lift: 224 intake/224 exhaust
Gross valve lift: .480 in. intake/.480 in. exhaust
Lobe separation: 107 degrees intake/117 degrees exhaust
Peak horsepower rpm: 5,100
Peak torque rpm: 3,300
Provides fair idle quality with good low end torque.
Significant top end horsepower above 4,000 rpm.

E303 $163.95
Advertised duration: 282 intake/282 exhaust
Duration at .050 in. cam lift: 220 intake/220 exhaust
Gross valve lift: .498 in. intake/.498 exhaust
Lobe separation: 110 degrees
Peak horsepower rpm: 5,500
Peak torque rpm: 2,500
Good idle
Provides good idle quality with excellent low and mid-range power.
Good horsepower through 6,000 rpm.
Emissions legal with five-speed manual transmission vehicles.
Works well with automatic transmissions.
Great for superchargers

Big Frank · Status: Offline

haha ya rob i unfortuneatley had to learn that the hardway...i had a 92 lx totaly stock motor...and i put an f303 cam in it cuz it was a turd...lets just say it was alot more of a turd after that...thats what drove me to buy the edelbrock heads...wich fixed the problem...after about $1500 later...and i do plan on buyin heads for my notch...tw heads, edelbrocks or JEG;s heads or somthing, but i need to get the chassis and susp up to snuff before i get more horse..i just want a cam for now so itll scream a little louder and idle nice...im just tryin to avoid a turd...and i figured with to much lift it wuld be the same sceneario as it was with my 92...but that car also had 2.73 gears at the time...hmmm...idk choosin a cam is just as hard as choosing paint..i dont like it!!!!!! but based off your guys opininons ill probly re-make my decision.